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You know, if everybody loves your work,

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you're playing it much too Dave,

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the type could have been a little

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stronger. Red's a difficult color. It's

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almost too strong. They had some issues

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on this about readability. I said, "No,

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what do you mean? What's the problem?"

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If your friends love it, your family,

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everybody loves it. It's probably not

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great. I hate to tell you.

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Uh, you need some detractors. You need

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some uh some people not liking it.

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And then you're probably on to

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something.

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I have a degree in sociology. I taught

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it in uh high school for a number of

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years and then one summer discovered

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this thing called graphic design. I was

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26 before I heard the term graphic

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design. So when I decided I wanted to

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give up my lifelong teaching job, my

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parents of course thought I was crazy

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and I thought about I said, "Well,

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something tells me I need to do this."

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And so I did. Holy [ __ ] everything

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shifted. David Carson radically

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transformed the world of graphic design.

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Carson turned graphic design into a

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cultural force. He unzipped typography

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and let it be wild.

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His bold, visceral work challenged and

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upended the field, making him a design

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hero or villain.

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The readability thing has gotten way

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overplayed, and his rule-breaking

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approach inspired a whole new generation

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of designers. I hope they're just

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motivated to push their work in a new

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The last decade, maybe more, there's

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been kind of a shift to some real

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generic, I think, kind of boring

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graphics. We've taken a lot of the uh

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excitement out of the field, and that's

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not where we want to be. At its best,

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graphic design can express what the

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heart is trying to say. It's the feeling

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we get from looking at something. And

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I'm hoping this class can help bring

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back some of the craft and the

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appreciation to detail and get back to

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more individual uh more meaningful and

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and better work. We're going to be

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looking at graphic design, typography,

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photography.

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We'll examine collage making, the

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process of logo making. I'm also going

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to bring you a small version of a

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workshop I give frequently around the

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world.

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The best design comes when you put

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yourself into the work. A large part of

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it is learning to trust your own

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intuition, something we all have, but we

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don't always use. Your uniqueness can

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actually be used in such a great way in

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this field of graphic design or arts or

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creativity. And that's what gives you

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the advantage over anybody else's.

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Nobody else is you.

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I'm David Carson and this is my master

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as a designer, if you're going to make a

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living from this field, you're you're

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going to have to work with clients.

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"Well, you've got all this fun, you

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know, cool surf rock and roll stuff, but

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I've got real clients." And I say,

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It's just a different set of

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restrictions and challenges really is

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the way to look at them. It's its own

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skill really working with clients and

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they're all different. See it as a

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challenge and say, "Okay, I'm going to

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do something that works for them, but

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I'm still happy with as a designer." And

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then it's a win for for both sides.

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The brief is is extremely important.

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That's almost all you have sometimes to

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start to begin with. And in general, a

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brief is what the ad agency and the

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client agree are the goals for the ad or

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the campaign or what you're working on.

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they trying to say? What are the

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benefits of the product or the service?

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where your ideas are going to come from.

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that info and right away your mind will

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something. But it gets it gets the

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wheels spinning as opposed to just say,

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oh, I'm going to look for some new cool

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ideas today. It's like, no, read that

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brief. Read it well and what do you get

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from that? What are you seeing? What are

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you feeling? And then then begin to

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work. So, it really starts there.

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critical, you also on your own need to

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find out about the history of the

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company that may not be in the brief,

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their their previous work, previous

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logo, previous branding. Um, I think

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your audience is is seeing and how can

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alienate their existing customers while

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bringing in some new ones. And that's

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that has a lot to do with your research

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doing? What is this demographic of

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consumer seeing? How can I not just add

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to that clutter, but actually elevate it

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and and do it in a unique way that's

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client that they they they we have to

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more. And they said, "Well, no, I we we

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anything. And these just go up on the

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that point and have some fun with it and

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the new Amtrak or the new train system

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the more outdoor stuff, they can't pick

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a car that they wanted to reintroduce to

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a slightly younger audience, even

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audience, that you could throw your

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stuff in the back of this car. I like

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the dual meaning they came up with in

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this headline. They are the way ahead

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and they're also way ahead of the

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competition. There's something kind of

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nice there. And I try to when I can use

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photos I've taken and I would encourage

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you to do do the same. and try to

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integrate things that you've noticed and

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photographed and kept. So, the photo I

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took in the Caribbean, this girl on the

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swing and just kind of fun and

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irrelevant. And the same with the kind

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of messy imagery. There's a hint of the

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maybe a beach scene in the blue there

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sure where that came from. The three I

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actually took that off of elevator I got

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off of. And then when I present, I

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present a wide range of things. So if

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they were thinking that was too crazy, I

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want to show them something that's maybe

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a little more technical or mechanical

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looking. Anyway, some of the actual

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gears and things on the car. And you see

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the car is actually very tiny up there

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on the right. But I present a wide range

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of things to let them to see where

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they're leaning and what they're liking

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and then go in and fine-tune ones

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they're liking. I'm very comfortable

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There's a horrible trade in Australia

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and other places in the world where they

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chop off the fin of of sharks to make

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soup, make expensive soup, and they

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apparently chop them like all their fins

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off and then they so they can't swim and

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they they float to the bottom and it

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takes like 3 days to die and it's a

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pretty horrific thing and people aren't

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really aware of it outside of of that

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world. But as a designer, how do you

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make people sympathetic to sharks? And

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you know, we're only used to seeing them

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menacing photos of of the of the fin

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coming at you and and all these things.

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was a starting point with the shark

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campaign. And we're just describing the

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fins a little bit or the different types

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of sharks. And so, here they are in

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their kind of still ominous position of

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up like we're used to seeing them. And

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then I thought, well, this is this is

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kind of an information poster where

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you'd have to be right there to read it

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or get it. Here you see that font I'm

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liking kind of edgy. And here's this fin

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as represented in just a graphic mark.

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cut off, well, maybe to experiment with

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the size relationships.

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idea of how many they actually killed

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maybe multiple, maybe three.

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but it turned out, I think, to work good

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is I just turned the fin around. And

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it's less menacing going down. So now

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here. But the basic starting point was

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the fin, which you see on the bottom

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left, going down instead of up. And the

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red maybe a hint of what's happening.

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They're chopping these things off. and

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then a mixture of upper lowercase and

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size of font. So I went here. I thought,

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well, I'm going to turn these fins

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upside down and show that there's a lot

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of them. They It's a crazy amount every

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turning them upside down, doing it in

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watercolor, and still you have the hint

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of red without being gory, I thought,

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work works best simple or complicated.

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that are killed, I need to really go

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there. Okay, that maybe gives you more

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animals that are killed for soup.

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of of whatever. And so they show all of

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fin. And this is what they ended up

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just kill the fin trade was a saying.

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client why you did something and not

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off the limbs and and that's why so it's

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not just arbitrary. You won't be able to

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selling it.

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biggest and they were seen as by a lot

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of people as too competitive and out to

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take over the world and there was a lot

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see if we couldn't soften their image a

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bit through through design and through

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type use. And what a fascinating concept

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you know my degree is in sociology. So

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this whole idea how can design help

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soften the image of this company. I

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my studio was and and I remember even

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got all my fonts and and they said

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somebody whoever said fonts well

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that they had rounded some edges and

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called Microsoft Gothic I think. So, you

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that. I got all these cool fonts." Or I

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thought, "Wow, that's interesting. This

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would be the first time I've restricted

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to using one approved font." It's like,

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whoa. And they want me to be human, help

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humanize them and do all these things

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like, but I I saw it as a real

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interesting challenge. So this campaign

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ended up of course using their font as I

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had to but in unusual ways for them

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very basic one and use it in ways that

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somebody else wouldn't. That's the

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challenge and that's the fun part and

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um finally I just put them into the

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layout with these kind of jagged uh

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weird white shapes and explained to them

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that I thought that was helping humanize

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and blah blah blah and and they stayed

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in, but it was just a result of me not

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being able to get rid of them. But but I

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do think they they work. And so the

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message is not love us, we're friendly,

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we're good. But it's like no, but

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we thought and they're not only out to

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take over the world and and some of

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that. So again, a really hard thing to

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measure, but these went in all different

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languages all over the world,

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billboards, uh, bus shelters and ads in

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magazines and and I have to think it in

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in some way it helped soften their

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something that I I come across and I

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think all designers do. You know, how

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much will a client let you do what you

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really want? And so this is some work

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for bows. For them, it was starting to

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remote they had. And so, of course, it

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wanted to be a very simple ad to help

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bring that idea out. And this might be

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one of the ones I'm most pleased with.

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They had never started a title with a

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lowercase letter. They had never had

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words touch each other, which had been

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done for quite a while at this point.

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white males in their advertising. And

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this wasn't that long ago. For me, this

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became about small victories and maybe

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in this case a pretty big victory. Uh

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that that not only some experimentation

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with the type, but being able to get

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away from white male only in ads, solid

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design, but what we accomplished is was

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more important.

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using more collagebased imagery when

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that feels right or feels correct for

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what it is we're working on. And that

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whiskey brand Mallen. So, it wasn't so

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much a matter of me looking at at this

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particular client and saying, "Oh, they

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need collage." It was like a combination

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of them coming to me because they'd seen

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some of that. and then me spending time

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at their distillery in Scotland and the

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things that struck me were the nature

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and the handsonness of the people from

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the from the whiskey tasting to the

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patching the casks. I mean it's very

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human uh hands-on work. So I really felt

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when I presented some ideas that well

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collage makes sense for this particular

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client and they had been pretty uh

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conservative. I think they would they

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would agree with in their advertising

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for quite some time and their branding

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and I just know there's there's a room

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for for a little more hands-on human

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kind of interaction and so collage seem

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to fit pretty well and it's pretty

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abstract. Um we we did a series of them

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for uh for the holidays and uh this

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particular one is just using their name

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and my name and the fact that we're

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working together and helping reintroduce

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them uh to some people or introducing

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them possibly for the first time and in

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addition to the Macallen work I was

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fortunate to get asked to work on a John

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Cold Train box set using collage.

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I was on the road. I was in Amsterdam.

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you are, it's your mindset and what

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you're working with and your ways of

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Amsterdam. So if you're doing collage or

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you're doing what you call personal

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work, um uh people are wanting that more

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than ever. you know, this whole movement

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to kind of feel there's a human behind

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the work that plays really well to

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individual artists and graphic designers

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who who do your own kind of thing uh on

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the side. Maybe, you know, there there

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there are places for that, probably more

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than there's been in quite a while.

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whether it's the image or the type or

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the white space or the whole layout. How

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through color, through texture, through

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type in the body copy, then could be a

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real disservice to the writer because

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to the reader who misses this important

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provided and it just seemed to lend

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of type. So, two columns on the right

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the movement in here. And I just can't

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in people and still seems to kind of

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work. So, I'm intrigued by that type of

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thing. Just hopefully makes it more

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interesting and promises to the viewer,

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this might be worth your time. There's

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something going on here. This is Super

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Chunk and another band. And I've also

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realized I could take the words super

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and actually reverse it out of the body

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copy creating chunks of type. I found

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that kind of interesting. So, it doesn't

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wrap around the word super. The type

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there simply disappears, but you still

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got to gesture the article.

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Here's a very simple layout for Tony

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Hawk and Beach Culture magazine. I'm

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just playing off the squareness of the

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illustration where there's actually some

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nice movement, but uh that against the O

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in his name and hopefully some reference

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of maybe wheels or movement or or

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skateboarding in that and uh the by

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line, the X there is plays a big part in

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this arrangement. If you take it out,

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the the spread isn't working. So they're

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all elements and that's that's what you

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do as as designers.

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Contents pages traditionally I haven't

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put page numbers on them but with this

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issue of Surf Portugal I decided you

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know what I'm going to really go with

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the page numbers. So here they are very

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big and they were actually what you

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would uh where the articles appeared. So

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for instance, this is the article on

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page 92 and the page number becomes a

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very important graphic element and I

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think adds to the spirit of not only the

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layout but the the whole magazine and

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and their audience in a sense. So this

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would have been page 76. So contents

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page photo by Albert Watson, amazing

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photographer and no page numbers. I just

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list things in order that they appear

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and I think people kind of go through

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magazines from the back anyway. So, and

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another contents page, another great

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photo by Albert Watson. I've always

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thought the the main thing I want to

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accomplish with a cover is is to

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get somebody to pick it up. I want to

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get somebody's attention on the news

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stand. I don't want to list everything

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that's in the issue politely down the

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side and maybe down the other side. I

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want them to react to it. Whoa, what

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what's going on here? The cover lines

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showing what's in the issue. The fourth

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line down happens to be Tony Hawk, the

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world famous skateboarder and uh at the

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time just beginning, but his name is

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upside down. So that's not a big deal,

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but maybe some of his fans or people

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following skateboarding hopefully got,

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you know, he was famous for some of his

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upside down tricks. And so it's just a

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matter of not automatically uh doing

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your work, but but really paying

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attention to the details. Here I' I've

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decided to after kind of a crazy cover

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on the issue before, go pretty simple

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and pretty clean. This is a photograph

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by Anton Corbin submitted for an article

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in the magazine. But when I saw this and

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I knew we were doing a kind of end of

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summer issue, I thought, "Oh, that's

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perfect image for end of summer." And it

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became the cover. So every cover and

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every page a whole new design

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assignment, which makes all the

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magazines I worked on a lot more work,

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but it also makes them a lot more fun to

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work on and I think allows it to end up

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at a more interesting place than if we'

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simply drop things in.

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You shouldn't use the always go to the

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obvious word to highlight. This was

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about a book called The Fear Project.

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Talks about all the things this guy has

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tried and he was afraid to do and how he

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conquered them. And at some point I

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realized, wo, look what happens when I

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make fear really small. And maybe maybe

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by making fear smaller than the it's

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actually becoming a little more fearful

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in a way. There's something there. It's

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not maybe that direct, but uh and at

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some point I landed on on what you've

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seen. And for me it's kind of foroding

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or fear somehow in there. So I think the

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the bigger message is don't be

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restrained to the obvious choices and

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well of course fear would be the big

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word and you'd probably make it big and

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black and fearful but not automatically.

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surfing Portugal. I did some covers and

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the the thing here is a 25 year

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anniversary and that's what it says in

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that type in in the towards the bottom

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there are those two shapes and

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originally I would have had that in the

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middle because that's where it seemed to

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want to go and I think with this

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audience and the subject matter it's

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fine that the type is down touching the

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black and not perfectly centered in

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between those two shapes. I'd like to

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encourage you to not put things where

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they seem to want to go. Don't put them

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in the obvious place. Maybe there's a

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more interesting place that only you

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would would find and not the obvious

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one.

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You know, people used to say early

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issues of of Ray Gun, oh, you can't read

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any of that, or oh, it's illegible. Of

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course, it's not. Readability has so

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much to do with what you're interested

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in reading. And with that audience, some

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of the more extreme experimentation

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probably helped them

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identify or like the magazine even more.

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Was it unreadable? No, of course not.

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Um, was it a science medical journal?

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No, it was skateboarding and surfing and

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rock and roll. And luckily, I was

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fortunate to be able to take some of

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that mindset and and move it into some

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client work. So legibility alone doesn't

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guarantee communication.

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You know, there's a saying we have,

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don't judge a book by its cover. And I

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say, "No, that's so wrong. If the

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designer's done their job, you can judge

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a book by its cover. It means they've

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read it, they've gone through it, they

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understand it, and they show it in the

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cover. So this whole idea, oh no, don't

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judge a book by its cover." No, no. If

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the designer's done their job, if you've

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done your job, yes. So it's easy to say,

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"Oh, yeah. Trust your intuition. That's

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great. But but it's um you know,

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everybody has it. It's a matter of

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trusting it and listening to it. My

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father was a test pilot in America. And

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at that time, of course, precomputer,

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pre- everything, they would the

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government would make a new plane and

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and they'd say, "Go see if that one

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flies, would you?" I remember my dad

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telling me they were they were finding

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that they were often blacking out at a

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certain altitude and angle and speed.

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He realized that if he started screaming

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at the top of his lungs, he would stay

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awake. So, he told the other pilots, "At

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this degree or this angle, start

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screaming, you won't pass out." So,

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that's a long entry into uh some people

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tell me, "Oh, I see why you take chances

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in graphic design. Your your dad was a

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test pilot." And I say, "Uh, I don't I

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don't think it's the same thing. I mean

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some of these decisions I have to make

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between like say serif versus sand serif

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and you know not real life threatening

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stuff. So why not take some chances? Why

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not put some of yourself into the work?

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Why not push yourself?

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The first assignment we looked at who

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are you and then we looked at how's your

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life going and now we're going to look

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into the future. Where do you want to be

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10 years from now?

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Okay. How many would want this future?

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Me?

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Yeah.

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One, two, three. All four. Well, that's

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interesting. Why?

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It's uh really optimistic. The use of

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color and u the message

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the texture of the paper sort of like

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being on top and sort of wrinkled makes

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it seem like there's room for mistakes.

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That's interesting. Okay.

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And don't take life too seriously maybe.

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Okay.

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Willing to just keep on keeping on.

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Yeah. It's pretty hard not to focus on

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the type. You know, it's repeated here.

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May this may have been a bit a bit

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literal. Anybody not want this future?

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You can trade it for yours. This is

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guaranteed. Yours is unknown. This is

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for sure. If you pick it, would you go

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with that?

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No.

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No. Why not?

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And not for no reason. Just I want my

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future.

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No. I'm sorry. You have to take this

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future.

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They didn't tell you at the beginning of

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class.

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What else? Is there anything? I mean,

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it's clearly happy, but is there

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anything else there?

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The sentence keep on. Okay.

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Does it seem like they're not happy all

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the time?

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Okay.

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They're willing to keep on fighting. I

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wouldn't say it screams happiness. I

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would say it's a balance.

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Good. I would agree. And the black is

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certainly contributing to that.

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Um and and so is this actually. It's not

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a super happy kind of thing. Yeah. And

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then I and then I think and then I think

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we I don't know that we get farther.

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Let's find out whose is this.

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This is mine. Okay. How how are the

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comments?

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I think that more than it being like

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about me, I sort of made it, you know,

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to me, I think this is like my take on

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like a little self-help poster. It's

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like a hang in there, but on a different

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level. But

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so you took a little more of a which

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which I like that kind of a mental uh

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evaluation where what might be going on

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as opposed to in the mountains or the

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city or the river or something like

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that. So I I like that. Um, and again,

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none of these can be right or wrong.

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They're just sending different messages.

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I will say I think the type could have

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been a little stronger. It's almost too

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literal. I get it and then I you kind of

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move on. So, if we were to rework this,

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I'm feeling it's kind of placed there

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and maybe there's there's so many

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interesting shapes and angles. Maybe

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there's some other way we could explore

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and make it feel less of kind of tapped

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on in the middle there. You're free to

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agree or disagree. You're free to agree

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with me.

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I think it's a good point.

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And I might even say when you get up

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close says keeping on. Maybe that's all

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it needed. This is pretty nice. This

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feels like it deals with the rest of the

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collage. This doesn't so much. Good. So,

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let's look here. How many would want

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this future?

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I'm not sure. It's kind of mysterious.

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I'm attracted to it, but you know, the

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use of color, the orange and the yellow.

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So, yellow and orange. Is it happy?

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Less happy. was a different kind of

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something about the hard edge and a torn

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paper.

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serious. Yeah, I would agree. It's like

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it's wanting to be happy. Yeah,

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but it's not certainly not this yellow

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happy.

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Like the whole thing feels very intense.

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variety of elements and they're all

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about equal weight. So, your eyes not

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even sure where to go. And what do we

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think about the type? What's going on

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there?

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Very mysterious. Yeah, maybe it's the

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two u same letters cuz you can't see the

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rest. I don't know.

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I'm tempted to look behind it, but

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that's not how we're seeing it. So, I

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can't do that. This one might need some

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more type or some more information.

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Okay. Who's is this?

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Yeah, this is me.

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Okay. How are the comments?

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Well, it says order behind there. I hit

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it with a blob of chaos.

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Yeah. So, the green is an O.

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Yeah, the green is an O. I also thought

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of it as something that was balancing.

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So, I see green as a sort of like a wise

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color.

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Green is a wise color. Yeah. Oh,

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interesting. And I really like the

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phrase that came before in the other

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assignment when someone said um

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predictable chaos.

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Trying to be a little chaotic, but it's

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also kind of orderly. So, it's it's in

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that direction for sure.

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So, I think that's where I want to be in

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10 years. I want still want some chaos,

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but hopefully I'll be a little bit

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wiser.

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Nice. Okay. Okay. Well, I think it gets

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better with that explanation. Maybe

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there's some ways that we could have

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gotten more from that or of what you

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describe.

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Yeah, I agree.

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Well, I can't, like I say, I can't say

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no. That's the wrong future.

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Okay. What do you see there?

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Peaceful.

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I see a window. Obviously,

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I'm getting a waves from it.

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Is there motion in here?

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Yeah.

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What direction?

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Oh, good point. I would say to the left.

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I would say to the right.

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Really? Yeah.

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Wow.

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Did they use type?

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No,

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it doesn't appear that they did. So, I'm

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curious to hear about that. Okay. Whose

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is this?

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That's mine.

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Okay. What can you tell us?

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I see myself in 10 years just being more

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calm. It's more mental than physical. I

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guess it's quite literal using the

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window. So, I was not finding the

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solution to use type

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in in that communication. Well, I like

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the thinking on that. He said basically,

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screw the rules.

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I thought maybe there was a T or

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something in there. I still would have

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liked to seen now you incorporated a

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little type in there just just kind of

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the challenge, but but a great start.

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Maybe a little too literal on the

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window. Maybe there's ways to hint at a

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window.

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place to be in a decade or 10 years.

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Let's go over here. How many would want

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this future?

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I'm curious about it.

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Me, too.

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Curious about it.

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How come?

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Because of the bright colors and the

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shapes, it feels very positive and

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exciting. But then the dot dot dot, it

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makes me a bit scared like I don't know

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what's coming.

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So, does it change the poster much if I

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could cover that up?

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Maybe. But it's still um exciting.

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I feel it's pretty animated as well.

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like you kind of feel the movement in

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it.

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I would agree.

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Okay, that's not easy to do. Can you

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imagine this as a real poster somewhere?

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Yeah, but I still don't know exactly for

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what.

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Okay. Well, no, I could for sure, but I

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would tend to agree with you. Yeah, we

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probably need a little more information,

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and that's something to work on in

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general. I mean, I still work on it is,

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you know, incorporating type into a

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great image and and making it stronger.

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Does it look like it was thought about

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or just done quickly?

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Thought about.

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Yeah, thought up. Why would you say

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that?

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The details you see is a mirroring

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image, but they're not equal. You see

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the craftsmanship. It's cut out, glued,

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straight lines. I would agree with that.

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Whose is this?

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Mine.

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Okay. What can you tell us?

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Um, it actually says grow on the bottom,

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but I placed it so that you could also

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read it as row because to me that both

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means like moving forward and like

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growing as a person. Maybe the blue was

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supposed to represent hopefully my

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professional life like going upwards and

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then the orange and yellow is like the

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happiness and the personal life going

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and the dots they were supposed to mean

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like you don't know what's

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like continued or

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yeah cuz it's the future I don't know

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yeah very strong you know if I had said

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for these assignments so get some

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colored paper and do a nice collage okay

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none of these in my mind would have

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become as interesting or good but

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because there had some personal

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information that had some meaning to

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you. They ended up in a place there's no

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other way you could do that. You know,

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this you have total freedom and very

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little at stake. Now, the trick is going

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to be to get some of that into your

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other work, steal some of that

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uniqueness.

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I hope with these exercises you realize

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that design has a lot of functions.

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Before somebody starts reading, does it

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intrigue them? Does it send a message

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that's consistent with what they're

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going to then read or experience or

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hopefully walk across the street and

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read the small print on that poster

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because you intrigued them. I hope you

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had a chance to do these at home and I

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really hope that you're encouraged to

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push yourself a bit. Put some of

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yourself into the work. Experiment more.

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Hopefully you got some of that from the

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class. So, thank you.

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I think if I didn't take risks, if I

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played it safe, we wouldn't be here

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today.

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So, we've looked at who are you, how's

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your life going, where are you going to

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be in 10 years? Okay. And now that would

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lead to this little closing exercise.

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So, just at the top of your page, I'd

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like you to just we'll title this

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lifeline.

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And then I'd like you to simply draw a

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line across your sheet, leaving some

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room on each end. Now, on this end, put

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an X, this will be your birth date. And

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then on this end, I'd like you to put

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how old you'll be and what year that

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would be when you die.

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Okay. Now, I'd like to come in with a a

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third X. And that one will be today's

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date, but put it in perspective where it

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should fall on that line.

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I'd like you to take a few moments here

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and and simply stare at this line. Just

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We're not used to seeing our our life

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like this, but just just stare at it

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quietly for a few seconds.

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What What were some of your thoughts as

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you just looked at your lifeline?

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How short I've lived. How short you've

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lived. Okay. How about you?

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How bad I am at math.

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How bad you are with math. Okay.

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Also,

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yeah, how short I've lived as well.

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How short? Okay.

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Okay. This is jarring. Yeah. I feel like

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I've already gone through a lot and now

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I'm just like, well, there's a lot left

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as well. Um I don't know what it's going

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to be like, but you know. Exactly. A lot

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left. That's mostly it.

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Okay. Okay. How about you?

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Yeah, the same. I thought more of like

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how much is left than how young I am.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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And how old are we going to be? How old

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will you be when you die?

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90.

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90.

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Yeah.

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I said 85.

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105.

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Wow.

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105.

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80 something.

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The purpose of this is is to not to end

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on some negative note or anything, but

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hopefully to realize the only thing we

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know for sure, nothing's guaranteed. The

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only thing we know for sure is this is

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gone. Okay? You're not getting that

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back. Um, and we don't know exactly when

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this is coming, but it is coming. And

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when I taught sociology, the there's a

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big study where they interviewed people

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on their deathbed really in nursing

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homes, try to find out what in their

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life did they regret doing and see if

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there were some patterns and things. And

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what they weren't expecting to find is

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that very few people regretted things

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they had done in their life. But almost

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unanimously they regretted the things

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they hadn't done. It was everything

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from, you know, why didn't I take that

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job? Why didn't I move? Why didn't I ask

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her to dance? You know, what was I

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thinking? So, if there's things you want

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to have accomplished by this point, what

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are you doing now to ensure they happen?

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Okay. If you're hoping they happen in

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here, well, good luck. But if there's

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some things when you get here, you want

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to be able to say you did this and this

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and this and you don't regret the things

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you didn't do. So, it's it's a positive

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note, even though it's it's odd. We're

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not used to looking at such a thing, but

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I hope you'll hang on to this. And then

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I hope you do this at home. It's it's I

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think uh worthwhile to kind of stare at

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and cuz the only thing, like I said,

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this is for sure. And if you're just

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hoping stuff works out, good luck. But

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but you don't want to get there and and

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have these things that you didn't do

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kind of haunt you.

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You know, one of the things that makes

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this exercise, I think, powerful is just

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it simplicity. Take it as a positive

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thing. It is going to end, but wow, look

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how much time I have left.

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that regardless, but you should write it

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in a way that you won't regret not

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doing.

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matter of of teaching people to have it,

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but it is a matter of

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teaching yourself maybe to listen to it

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more. If you can become a aware that

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it's out there and it's important and it

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design tool.

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there's a reason what sometimes appears

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chaotic or random is almost never the

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case. graphic design has gotten pretty

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conservative and automatic and I think

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a word rebellioness

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that word there aren't as many rebels um

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in graphic design and it's gotten so

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clean and sanitary and so I think for

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the profession to stay kind of vital or

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or important that we still need somebody

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this Because a big part of design is to

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get somebody to want to come into your

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store, to pick up your book, to click on

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your site, to walk across the street and

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read the fine print. You know, if you've

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done your job as a designer, people will

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do that. They'll want to do that. I have

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an example here. This was a window

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display for a store in a shopping mall.

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readability,

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but I think this in a boring shopping

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mall window display would have gotten

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people's attention and maybe they stop

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and maybe they they look in the door,

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but we'll never know. They it never came

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very close to being accepted, but I

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think a bit of a missed opportunity.

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I was asked by a hotel in in Amsterdam

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to come up with some the numbers for the

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floors. You know, we see here the word

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to, but it says nothing. That's

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nonsense. That doesn't say anything in

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any language, but we all read it. And

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you know, really the word is an image.

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especially getting off the elevator in a

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hotel that's trying to be kind of hip

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and current and fun. And of course, you

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get it right away. I am trusting my own

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judgment and intuition on that. I know

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it's a three. I know it's a four. I know

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they're all readable even though I say

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it's not a word. Okay, this works really

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the I in the middle. The five was pretty

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great, but this is maybe even better.

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using them in new ways. Sounds kind of

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trit, but but I think that's a big job

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of the designer. It's get people looking

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my phone. And if I go for a walk in a

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new city or something and I don't have

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my phone, I have to go back because I'm

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texture, some color, it registers. And

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work. What we're seeing here is just

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something that caught my eye. And this

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is a shape, color, texture. It's not to

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copy them exactly, but it it registered

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as something that your mind sees that

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somebody else might not have seen. So,

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things in groups of color combinations

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that I think could go together.

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little things just say no thanks.

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somebody stops and and reads it. No, no,

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their pocket. Anyway, just absurd, but

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great. And you know, I love this kind of

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thing on a couple levels. Somebody took

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the trouble, number one, to design this,

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number two to print them, number three

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to wild post them around the city one

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night. And there's no other message on

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there other than it says, "Holy shit." I

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love that energy that somebody took the

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time to to do that. and and get it out

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there for no obvious advantage or

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reason. Okay, guy's got a great hand

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lettering and it's pretty clear. I I

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think I get this message and then I saw

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another sign saying basically the same

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thing. Both don't want you to dump

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there, but here's a little different

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approach. So, you know, which one would

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you dump in front of? Would you dump it

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here or there? They say the same thing

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basically, but a very different message

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largely because of the design.

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"Wow, I'm just not really sure this is

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security with with with this company.

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blue tape." So, stuff again that catches

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my eye. If you have a friend that has

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one of these, just solve it for them.

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4x4 is 16. But I love the idea of

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somebody coming in in the morning to get

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noticing things in your environment. And

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my world. Normally I would ask if

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anybody can tell what this is, but it's

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going to be pretty hard to hear you

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there at home uh wherever you are. Uh so

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of interesting shape. Here's another

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one. There's something kind of familiar,

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but not really about it.

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my actual laptop. And somehow I must

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apparently I use AS and E quite a bit

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away, which I I just find really

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intriguing. When does that happen? You

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don't you don't see it. doesn't come off

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on your finger, but somehow that wears

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woven down. But the point is, use your

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environment. See things that nobody else

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sees. That's really where where you want

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to be is bringing what only you can

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bring to a project because nobody has

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your background, your upbringing, your

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parents, your whole life experience.

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uh newsletter, business card or

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something, but nobody can pull from who

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encourage you not only in graphic

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design, but any field to to use that

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because something is an accident doesn't

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make it good. But it's a huge part of my

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process. Always has been. Unexpected

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things along the way. something falls,

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something gets stuck in a in a printer,

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something whatever. You got to be open

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to that stuff and aware of it. And most

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of the time it doesn't work. But every

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now and then something you weren't

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like, wo, that's even better than I

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thought. When I started it was all paste

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printer, not having to send out for it.

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some point, I thought, well, you know

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what? Maybe I'll just use it like this.

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I could mix some of the the words or the

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letters of the title. Those are kind of

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interesting. Well, at this time in the

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whole process, I like to print it out

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and look at it and stare at it. So, with

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this, I had to print these four sections

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it had to come out in four pages. And

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"Oh, wow. That's that's even more mixed

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message. Look at that." And I'm sure I

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very carefully picked it up and maybe

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taped it together or something. And so

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the white line you see kind of coming

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down through the X's to the S and then

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going horizontally through the S and the

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A, that's the border of the smaller

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sheets of paper that wouldn't print,

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wouldn't bleed, but it became the whole

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layout cuz I thought it even reinforced

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this mixed message idea. So I think

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intuition in design is is actually one

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of the most important ingredients. Um

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it's something only you can pull from.

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Uh, everybody can use it, but

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everybody's is going to be different.

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That's, you know, it really does have to

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do with your whole life experience, how

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you were brought up, your parents, your

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everything. And somehow that influences

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what you see, your decisions on things.

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And you have to be able to listen to

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that in design to or probably a lot of

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fields to do great

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I'm interested in the various ways

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typography can can send a message and

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can communicate and some of it's through

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reading but not most of it. Most of it

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is the feeling we get from it and that

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really intrigues me and how can we

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emotionally affect people through the

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use of typography. It was, you know,

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William Burroughs once said that a word

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is an image. A word is an image. And I

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think that's how I feel about

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typography. It's an image. It also

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happens to spell something. But before

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that, it's sending a message and how

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it's arranged and how it's worked uh

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into a design or layout. And that to me

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is an excitingly powerful tool.

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We have a few things that we can use to

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help send a message and and I start

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really with the font choice. Don't

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overlook the message behind each font,

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what you get from that. They all have

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their own personality and you have to

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decide as a designer which one fits your

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particular project the best and doesn't

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simply

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uh carry the information. It'll help you

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um reinforce a message and and that can

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be

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well any anything really stability. It

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can be fragile. It can be quaint. It can

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be loud, you know, and without

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necessarily having to say that. And it's

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letters? Did you decide maybe it's a

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little elegant or classier if I open

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that up a tiny bit and maybe here I

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feel right. Maybe I should make a tall

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condensed one that I can find. So make

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readable. It's okay. But that's not

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where you want to be. That's not where

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you're going to have the most fun doing

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work. So I would look at a of you know

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you is feeling right for the message and

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photograph or graphs or whatever you

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uh too common, too forgettable and after

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that it just has to feel right to you

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particular client. And that's a

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subjective call but it's a huge part of

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what rather than grab the newest coolest

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latest font I'm going to take an old

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existing font and a new one and combine

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them and that will be the look for

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Armani and it became their look for that

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upper lower case. So just little stuff.

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how you use it. And maybe you can

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different font. Something that makes it

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yours. And maybe people aren't even

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interesting, but the fact that you did

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bolder, but whatever whatever seems

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make things your own. Have have some

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ownership that nobody else would do.

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just all over the map. You know, it can

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angry, it can be urgent, it can be calm.

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that message that a person was behind

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this. And some of the reason you should

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like hand lettering. handletter it or

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use somebody in the agency to do a kid

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art ad and no, get a kid to do that. You

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can't beat that. And when I see hand

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lettering, the first thing I do is check

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two letters and see that they're

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different. Make sure it's hand lettering

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done some part of hand lettering and I'

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maybe kind of even gotten back to it

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more, but this was done with a

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watercolor pencil held up too high at

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the wrong angle and probably with my

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left hand and it says beach. The hand

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writing here contrasts nicely with the

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squareness of the photograph. the um

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juxtaposition of something very

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obviously human and a more formal

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portrait I think works together well.

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doesn't make it good. It's still as

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subjective and intuitive as other types

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of graphic design, it has to feel right

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for what it's what it's working for.

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Sonic Youth and the illustrator, he

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on the left. I thought, "Oh, there's

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something kind of nice in that hand

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lettering." And I took the hard copy of

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the article they actually gave me uh and

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and that's very subjective, but um but

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pretty rewarding when you get it. And

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there's a human behind this. There's

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some people involved here.

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huge part of of also reinforcing the

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message and sending it. I usually don't

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want to color to overpower the the

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design. It should complement it. In this

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particular case, you know, this is an

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article, songs in the key of life, where

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different musicians talked about songs

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in their life that when they heard them

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date, a kiss, a summer, a storm,

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maybe a little bit of all that, you

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dirty yellow. this place of melancholy.

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happy or sad. So, this was a Channel

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Island National Park series of posters

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to get people excited about the park.

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discover. And that's kind of what they

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want you to do with a national park and

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what I want you to do in the poster. And

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because it's an island, the the color

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reference is largely blues and greens

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because I'd never used pink like that

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this is a very scary, cold, sharkridden

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place to go surfing. It's actually the

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called Mavericks in Northern California.

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the title pretty good title cold sweat

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friendly not very welcoming feel so it's

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been black it has the spacing the tea

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being the only one in white all that

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what the article is about so that's the

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starting point for me read the article

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in in magazine work listen to the music

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look at any images and say okay what am

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I getting from that and what would that

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schooling. I I never used a grid, never

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knew what they were and still don't use

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a grid or any kind of system. By the

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time I did learn about them, I thought,

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"Wow, why would you want to do that?"

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because I started on art boards with a

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blank piece of thin cardboard, basically

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a blank a blank page and start arranging

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things to where they feel right and help

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send the message I'm trying to send. So,

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called Eddie Bower. I did this cover. I

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think it's kind of reasonable. And a

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couple ads, you know, this was again was

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a big deal for them to break up words.

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of their catalog work.

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Um, and they showed me this and I

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thought, "What? I've never seen so many

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freaking guidelines in my life." And I

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couldn't I couldn't work with that. It

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was too much info. I took it all in.

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It's all part of the design. I have to

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to eliminate them. Um, I have to delete

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guidelines. You know, never snap to

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guides. That's a horrible command

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because you should be making those

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decisions. The idea that a computer sets

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that up is to me is just all wrong. This

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is uh Wow. I think this is where you end

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up with boring design and boring

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designers and probably a boring

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audience. So I would encourage you again

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get you know never snap to guides. You

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know when you start a page this is how

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it should look. You're bringing your eye

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to it. You're not following somebody

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else's guideline guidelines. I mean come

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on. Um like training wheels or

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something. So this is how you need to

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start. You know never snap to guides.

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Never snap to guides. Never snapped a

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guy. I just can't say it. We want your

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design. In the photos you choose or in

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the sections of the photos you choose.

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That's where you can give some life to

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something that otherwise might be so

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perfectly focused and colored and

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balanced that it's totally forgettable.

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What hints can you take from the

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photography? A line, an angle, a white

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space, something that helped tie this

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together as as one piece.

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I think because I started on a

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skateboard magazine where we had very

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limited well like no budgets and photos

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just submitted by people in the office

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or skaters themselves which is a cool

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idea but it often didn't work. And so I

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was forced to kind of look at each photo

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and maybe find a section that I thought

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was more interesting. I'm going to go in

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and blow this section of the photo up

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and whoa that got really strong. That's

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really nice. And so I started working

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like that. And even if the skate

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photographer photography was good, then

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maybe again it was a major article or it

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was a cover article or you had six pages

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or eight pages and all I have are a

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couple good skate shows. Well, I want

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more atmosphere. So, it it got me

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searching for things but always within

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what I was given. So, maybe type got

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bigger, maybe this one little photo they

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thought would be used small, got bled,

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or any number of decisions like that.

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And I think I still kind of work in that

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way. People lay out magazines now and

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they leave a box for when the photo

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shows up. Say, "No, you can't just drop

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that in when it shows up. Let's look at

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that photo. Maybe it needs to be

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enlarged. Maybe it needs to be a bleed.

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Maybe there's a section of it that's

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more interesting." But the idea that you

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just drop it into a pre-arranged box is

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probably going to kill all the the

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impact.

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This is a really tight cropping which I

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like and I've done in a variety of

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sports from the skaters to the

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snowboarders to surfers and that's the

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case here. So I've cropped extremely

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close in on on this photo of 11time

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world champion Kelly Slater with the

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idea which see was was revolutionary at

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the time. Wow. I wonder if we could use

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this print media to get people to go to

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this new website thing, you know. Do you

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think do you think would that work? It

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basically says, so this is shot number

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five of a photo sequence of Kelly

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Slater. And if you want to see the the

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whole ride, go to this web address. But

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that's taking kind of two concepts. one

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that I like to crop and and uh severely,

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severe because it had that other

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intention of of teasing people to want

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to go to the website where they would

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not only see the whole wave, the whole

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ride, but of course product information

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and and everything else. This was a

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publicity photo which we often used,

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which I hated doing because everybody

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else has the same photo, but it's free.

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of PJ Harvey and I just thought, "Oh

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man, another PR photo. Everybody's gonna

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see the same photo. You know what? Maybe

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I could just crop in." So I ended up

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cropping in very closely and just her

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eye. And I think with the type became a

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more striking cover than her simply

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staring at the camera that the original

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PR photo was.

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Bark was a paddle board company in uh

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California. And like I often do,

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starting with the skateboarder magazine,

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I'm I'm given a a photo and you would

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have seen the whole paddleboarder here.

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this a lot. And then, oh, well, this is

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kind of interesting. As I start cropping

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in, get a little more dramatic. And

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there's a hint of going into the

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brochure into the magazine on the right.

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people that don't know this company to

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be intrigued, to want to know more. And

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hopefully this starts to send a good

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message about the company that maybe

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they're they're experimental, they're

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current, they do things in a different

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way. There's a lot of messages your

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design sends.

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catalog. I think it's nice when the

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client doesn't demand you always show

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product. And then I really like this

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tagline, keep paddling. It just applies

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to everything. Keep going, keep

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paddling. And the original photo was a

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lot bigger again. And then here the

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guy's kind of leaving and you just see

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the foot and there's just something

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where I think it got stronger. So, so be

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aware of the entire

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wholeness of of what information you're

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given, especially in photography. And

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can you make it better with your eye as

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a designer? That's why you were hired.

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This is a page from uh Beach Culture

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magazine and uh it's a little bit about

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the cropping and it's also about found

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art and using things that maybe weren't

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intended. And when the photographer for

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this article, uh, the singer Lyall Love

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it, uh, actually sent me all the

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official shots. So, well, perfectly lit,

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all above, all the expected stuff. Um,

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and they were fine and they were focused

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and they were, and somewhere in the

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package, I found this little test

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Polaroid that I don't even know if they

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knew they sent. And in that test

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Polaroid, the singer Lyall Love it, he's

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standing on his X that had been taped on

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the ground for his spot to be standing.

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tape, but his boots are right on right

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in uh behind the X where he's supposed

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to stand for his photo shoot. And it's a

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little Polaroid in amongst all these

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perfect shots. And I just thought, "Oh,

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that's so cool. Look at the way he's

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standing. Look at those boots. Look at

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the pants. It just it just seemed to

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fit. It just seemed to say so much about

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him and and maybe the experience and and

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later you still get a shot of him and

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you see his face and all that. And so

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this article talks about what's all this

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noise about. So I'm interpreting that

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title a little bit, but I just just love

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this photo. And I I actually posted it a

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year ago or something cuz I'd run back

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across it and uh and I saw a message

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from Lov It himself to the photographer

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saying, "I love this shot. How come I

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never saw it?"

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You know, so it's not the obvious choice

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for the opening photograph, which of

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course makes it the obvious choice.

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expected one. With this one, I read the

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interview, which is always the starting

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point for me. I have no other place to

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start on an article. Sometimes editors

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are surprised. What? You read the

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article. You have to read the article

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and you have to look at all the material

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and you have to listen to the music.

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That's that's where you get inspired.

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photo. And I read the interview and the

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guy was was super negative in the

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interview. He hated interviews. He hated

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magazines. Yeah. Just like kind of a

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downer interview. And at some point I

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decided, you know what? I'm just going

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to use this picture upside down

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early work for Burton Snowboards. I

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developed this bar logo for them. And

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then at the time it was a big deal to

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break up the logo. You didn't break up

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logos, much less change the size and the

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color. They showed me all these these

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photos of of people doing the obvious

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tricks in the air and things. And there

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was just this one real photo of the guy

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looking back at the camera. He's going

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across a a lake that's half water still.

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just so cool." And it showed the jacket

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and the gloves and the product pretty

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well. And I had to argue for this one

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cuz I really wanted another high air

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photo, but I thought, "No, there's

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something real about the way the guy's

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looking back." And then this one, I just

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I thought that I cropped the guy out and

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just used a shadow. I thought it was

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more interesting. He probably wasn't

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real happy and his parents, but hey, I

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got the cover. Wait a minute. What's

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this? It's your shadow, man. It's your

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shadow. It's cool. So, this was an

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action uh what do they call it?

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Adventure Lifestyle magazine when they

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came to me and wanted to start this and

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and they were calling it Adventure

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Lifestyle. And I said, "Oh god, that's a

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corny title, Adventure Lifestyle." At

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some point, I said, "I don't know, call

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it Blue or something, but but not

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Adventure Lifestyle." So, this was the

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first cover. Of course, I I don't never

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going to make the word Blue. That would

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be way wrong. And I had this photo of

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photographer Laura Lavine had sent me

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many years earlier as a contact sheet

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for Beach Culture magazine and I

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couldn't find a use for it. And it was

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all these kids diving and swimming and

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jumping. I thought, "Wo, this is so

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cool. This is I didn't crop this. This

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is how she had gotten it." And uh I I

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circled it, put it away, and it would be

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I don't know four or five years later

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when this opportunity came up for this

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magazine. And I thought, "Ah, I've got

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that one image." And was able to track

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it down and her down to get the

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original. And I I think it I think it

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sends a nice message about this new

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with the Nest Nails cover. I didn't just

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say, "Oh, this looks cool. Oh, this

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looks cool together." I mean, I think

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they got there, but um but there was

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some meaning that came out of the

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lyrics. This was the cover of The

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Fragile and it's a photo I had taken

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actually on another video shoot. I got

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down in the in the bushes in Austin,

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Texas and uh took it into the uh local

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photo shop. The guy called me back the

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the film. He said, "Uh, listen, I got

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some really bad news. We have a new

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person here and and he used the wrong

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chemicals and the film is ruined." I

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said, "What?" Cuz I knew I had had some

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cool stuff. And he goes, "No, no, it's

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okay. Good news. we're going to give you

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a roll of free film. I say, "No, no,

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that doesn't do it. Those were very

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important pictures." And he said, "Well,

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I'm sorry, but we will give you a roll

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of free film." I'm just just so bummed

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out. I pretty much demanded it. Well, at

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least show me what you got. He No,

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they're they're ruined. I I can't even

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show I want to see what you got. And I

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went down to the place and he brought

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out this this plastic bag with these

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photos and this was one of them. And I'm

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looking through these going, "These are

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freaking great. This is amazing." And of

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course, I'm going, "Yeah, I see what you

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mean. Yeah, you really screwed up.

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Where's my free film?" Um, but the point

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is, that's what you're seeing here.

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That's what became the one of the covers

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of the CD. I mean, I've cropped it and

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stuff, but somebody else's screw-up that

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they weren't even going to show me uh

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became the cover of this of this top

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selling album. And so, there's something

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about being open to things you're not

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expecting. And I wasn't expecting this

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this tone. I mean, now you could do it

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in and a program or something, but these

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were analog photos and this is how they

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look. And they were various shades of of

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messed up, but some got so much better.

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And uh I doubt the guy ever knew that.

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But last day before these were going to

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be printed all over the world, Trent uh

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said to me, he goes, "You know, I've

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looked at these. is I looked at this

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cover and I looked at the back cover and

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you know the back back cover kind of

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irritates me but I like it at the same

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time and that's a lot truer to the

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music. So I think we have to swap them.

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swapped the front cover for the back

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cover and picked his second favorite one

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because he thought it was truer to the

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music even though it wasn't his

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favorite. And I thought wow that's

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that's pretty strong. I I like working

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with somebody that has that kind of

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beliefs. These are not just cool random

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photos. When I listened to the lyrics

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and read the lyrics, there's a lot of

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water reference in these. A lot of water

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reference. And and that's kind of my

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starting point here. The top is a

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waterfall. The bottom is kind of like

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you don't know what you're looking into,

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but it's actually just a closeup I took

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of a seashell. But both water and sea

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references, which the album has a lot of

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as well. And that led to another album.

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The next album was Live. This was done

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right around the time of 911. And I

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think it's influenced kind of the gray

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and bleakness of the work. I took the

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photos and I discovered I had a bomb

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shelter I didn't know about in my

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backyard and climbed down in there and

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and took some photos and just I I often

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thought it reflected the times we were

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living in and maybe even made it a more

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striking cover.

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try things you haven't tried before. And

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that's when it remains fun and exciting.

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There are a lot of board designers out

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there, but you don't want to be there.

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the world to show that design can

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communicate before somebody starts

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reading.

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I've gotten together a small group of

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international students. I hope you'll

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try these at home as well. So for the

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first assignment, I've asked the

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students to only using the letters of

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your first name and only black and

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white, arrange them in such a way that

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we'd get a pretty good sense of who you

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Well, welcome. Now, all of these are

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going to be sending messages. What we

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want to look at, is it the right

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message? And if it's not, that's fine.

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We're going to show that it's impossible

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to not communicate. And even the ones

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that may not be right are still

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communicating. And that's what we want

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to look at today. And then they'll their

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next assignment will grow on this one.

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assignment and a little more freedom in

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a sense. And then the third one will

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wrap them all together. For this part of

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the assignment, the students did not see

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what each other were working on. So I

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think that brings a kind of a freshness

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to it. Let's go here for no particular

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reason. What kind of person is this?

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experimental person.

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I would say dreamy person.

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Dreamy open. Experimental. Dreamy. Open.

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as well.

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Some darkness in their life.

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Okay. Look at that already. Just in in a

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30 seconds we go. Oh, they're

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experimental. Oh, some darkness in their

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life. Oh, they're What was the other

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one?

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Open.

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Shortly open. Okay. So, right away we're

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making these decisions and this is black

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ink on paper and and so that's really

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interesting. What else? What hit you

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I could say about it. Someone who's

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trying to make connections for sure.

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Somebody's trying to make connections.

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I want to feel that as much as we see

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that's maybe not quite so literal. So,

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something to keep in mind as we go

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forward. What else? Is this a a shy

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person?

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Mysterious person.

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Mysterious.

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Overthinker, maybe.

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Overthinker.

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turns out that these are right, we don't

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want to say an overthinker. Who's

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mysterious? No. We want to feel that.

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And then you can work those words in.

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but they wanted to be reinforced with

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what they're feeling when they first see

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it. All right. Well, let's find out who

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who's is this.

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Um, okay. How were those comments?

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about the like the darkness thing cuz I

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it's less noticeable to me. Maybe

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because I've spent more time looking at

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it, but I thought it was interesting and

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the overthinker comment. I like that for

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this.

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wrong?

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way, you can't escape that you're you're

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you and you made these decisions and

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there were a lot of decisions.

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All right. Well, what I what I enjoy

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about this this starting in this place

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is in a way, you know, we have four

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personalities here and we have them up

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here, too. And what we're trying to

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decide are they meshing and how they're

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communicated. And I think we're we're

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going to see a mix or not, but so

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overall, this sounds like it was fairly

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accurate.

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Yeah. Okay. But we got a lot of

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discussion out of this black ink on

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white paper. So I'm I'm happy to hear

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that. Let's go. Well, let's let's let's

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go here. What kind of person is this?

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Same as the other person?

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same restrictions. Do any of these look

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alike?

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Definitely not. And that's something to

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keep in mind as we go forward that if

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you're given the same assignment for a

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logo or branding or something, even

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though it's the same um topic you're

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working on, they should all look

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different for how you see the situation.

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the back seat of their car would look

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like?

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Clean. Yeah. Very clean.

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Very clean. Okay. So, right away, even

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something as abstract as that, we're

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making decisions on.

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It doesn't matter. right or wrong, it's

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that you got that. And that's the power

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of just these marks. What else? Is this

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a friendly person?

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because of the white space.

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like white space.

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Yeah. The lines are bit rugged.

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What else would you Would you want to

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know this person?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Would you be afraid to meet this person

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at 3 in the morning in an alley?

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polite, I guess.

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Polite. Okay. Okay. So, we're not

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getting, you know, we got a pretty dark

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place in this one. Maybe that's

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a little literal again, but I think it's

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not only that. There's nothing spooky

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with that's a bad word, but with the

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with the background too, the gray, but

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um Okay, so we're gotten pretty

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friendly. We don't mind meeting him at

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at 3:00 in the morning in an alleyway.

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This This is a pretty feel-good piece.

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It feels energetic but at the same time

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like it

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it's got sort of a like mixture of like

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a traditional take but then like a very

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unique spin to it.

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So like still feels like someone who's

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like pretty clear.

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But still interesting in their own way.

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Okay. Okay. I would agree with that. I

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like how it leads off. You know, there

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were some real distinct decisions made

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here.

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I'd say there's definitely confidence

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there.

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That's a nice one. We haven't heard yet.

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Confidence. I I would agree with that.

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Is it a loud confidence or kind of quiet

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confidence?

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Loud.

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is so big.

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it might be both. It's very organized.

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Um it's not solid black, which would

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have been a whole different message.

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Mhm.

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Um but I think overall they've all been

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pretty descriptive. So normally with a

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bigger class, so who's is this?

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Who in the world did this one?

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Um, okay. Yeah.

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Can you tell us?

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Yeah, it's pretty obvious it's me.

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How are the comments?

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Um, it's u pretty spot on. I'm I'm

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fairly open, but maybe of the first

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impression I don't look like it.

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That's interesting. I think that kind of

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comes through. Open, but maybe first

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impression is it's kind of bold. It's

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not really welcoming.

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As a as an image. Some of these others

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we're going to find are a little easier

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to kind of get into in a sense. Although

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the the bleeding off does allow us in.

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We're not trapped in there. So that's

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interesting.

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And you might think the edges are kind

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of rough, but they are soft. So at first

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maybe you think they're rough, but

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they're soft when you get to know me.

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The edges are rough, but he's actually

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kind of soft. Does anybody see that in

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here?

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Yeah, now.

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Absolutely.

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Absolutely. Anything in here that was

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totally wrong?

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Big personality.

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Yeah, in a way. Maybe in certain

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situations, but

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more on the quiet side or

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Yeah, I would say so. Yeah.

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Okay. I I love the part about you um

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maybe look kind of difficult at first,

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but once you get to know you, it's

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actually kind of a soft person. And so I

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think that comes through really well.

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All right.

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Okay. Good. Let's go here. What kind of

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person is this? What hits you

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immediately?

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Fun person.

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Yeah.

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Oh, two people right away. Fun. So, this

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one's communicating pretty well. Mhm.

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What else?

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I want to say like a sort of a critical

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or creative thinker.

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What makes you say that?

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Just the sort of fun perspective and

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clearly looking for more than their uh

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might be to see for others.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. A lot of sense of humor. A good

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sense of humor.

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Experimental like with all the different

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styles of every letter.

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Would you say this person is organized

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or unorganized?

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Organized in her own way, but probably

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unorganized.

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Okay. Organized in their own way.

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I think it's thought out. I don't think

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that it's organized, but I think that

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like the strength is in how chaotic it

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is.

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Okay. I would say there is a certain

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order to this and a certain

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organization. And so if as we go

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forward, we're kind of if we were able

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to redo this, I'd probably want it

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pushed even further. And that's what you

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do as a designer. You notice things that

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other people don't. What do you think

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the What can I say here? How about the

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top drawer? Or if they have a chest of

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drawers in their room, what what what

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does the top drawer look like when you

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open it?

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A lot of stuff.

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A lot of stuff.

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Yeah.

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Is it organized?

279
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No.

280
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No. No.

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When I say it's definitely one of those,

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we're deciding what their drawer looks

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like and we're not even debating it.

284
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Who's is this?

285
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It's me.

286
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Okay. How How were those comments?

287
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Um, very spot on. Like all of them.

288
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Very spot on. All of them. Okay. Class

289
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dismissed. That's it.

290
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So, it's communicating a lot even though

291
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it's simply her name. Um, what else?

292
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Uh, my top drawer is definitely messy.

293
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And full of stuff. I'm a collector.

294
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You're a collector.

295
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I'm a collector.

296
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Does anybody think that comes through?

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Yeah, cuz you like couldn't decide which

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one was nice. All of them.

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I think for sure she's a collector. But

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but But we didn't get that. And you

301
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know, maybe there's even a way we could

302
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have gotten more into that. But but what

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else?

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Um

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I like that you said I was a fun

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character. Um I want to agree on that.

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Um

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and also I am organized and then

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disorganized as well. So, I think the

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comments you made about it being very

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organized and thought through, but also

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messy made like perfect sense.

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Sounds like we were pretty close. Well,

314
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you said spot on. I can't really do

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better than that. And again, somebody

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that just walked in might say, "Well,

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what what are they talking about?" No,

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just somebody's name or somebody ink or

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just like, "No, they're all

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communicating a lot." And we're finding

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pretty accurate. Not not totally, nor do

322
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they have to be, but I think that's

323
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pretty interesting. So let's let's go

324
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over here. What kind of person is this?

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Smart.

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Smart.

327
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Organized.

328
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How many would say organized? Yeah.

329
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Okay, everybody. So that's pretty clear.

330
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Structured uh and dynamic.

331
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Structured, organized, dynamic. That's

332
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pretty strong stuff.

333
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Clean.

334
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First time we've heard that. In what

335
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way? What do you mean?

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Like the top drawer is probably very

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clean.

338
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I got you on that top drawer thing,

339
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didn't I?

340
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Okay. organized and clean. Okay. Okay.

341
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Is this a friendly person?

342
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No.

343
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What's making you say no? There's a lot

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of white space. That's usually a kind of

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a positive thing.

346
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I would say because it's so structured,

347
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but it sounds more of a serious sort of

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idea than a friendly.

349
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Like building on that, it just kind of

350
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feels like it might take like a little

351
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bit of time to get through.

352
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Okay.

353
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At first. Yeah.

354
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Might take a while to get to know them.

355
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Yeah.

356
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Um I I would agree with that. It's kind

357
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of uh is it a shy, quiet person?

358
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Yeah, I would say so.

359
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You would say so. That's interesting

360
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because it's so bold on on these

361
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strokes. What makes you say that?

362
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Yeah, I would say that because it's so

363
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uh there's so much white space on it as

364
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well.

365
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So, I feel like the person is a bit

366
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taking a back, but then it has the

367
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contrast of the the big black um blocks.

368
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I think that's really interesting to

369
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have something so bold and yet get shy

370
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out of it.

371
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I agree with that. The use of whites

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space

373
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Yeah.

374
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indicates that

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all this white space is absolutely as

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important as the black and you know the

377
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shape around letters and in letters and

378
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all of that.

379
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I know it feels like the white space

380
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also says to me like leaving a lot um

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left unsaid.

382
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Okay. Leaving a lot unsaid. That's the

383
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first time we've heard that.

384
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Yeah.

385
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Makes you want to know more which is

386
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very powerful stuff. You want people to

387
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want to know more. If you know if you

388
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tell them everything really simple they

389
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lose interest. You know, you there's a

390
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danger in going too literal. It's like,

391
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okay, I get it. What's the big deal? And

392
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that's a huge part of graphic design.

393
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Okay, who's is this?

394
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Mine.

395
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How are those comments?

396
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Uh, pretty accurate.

397
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Pretty accurate.

398
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Yeah, like uncomfortably accurate.

399
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Completely accurate. Well,

400
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like I love uh days that I have

401
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everything planned from when I wake up

402
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to I go to bed and I'm really organized.

403
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My house is kind of minimalistic and

404
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very clean. the house is minimalistic

405
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and clean. Does that kind of come

406
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through in there? I would say

407
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absolutely.

408
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If this was a book cover about her life

409
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or about a lecture she's giving, it's

410
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certainly in the right direction. We got

411
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some really interesting diversity.

412
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Again, same exact assignment, same

413
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materials, and none of them look the

414
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same. That's the power, a little bit of

415
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the power of what we do and work on. And

416
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then something to keep in mind, well,

417
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yes, I may have said this and put all

418
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the right information, but what are

419
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people feeling when they first see it?

420
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And am I reinforcing that? Did anybody

421
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do have a couple that they couldn't pick

422
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from?

423
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Uh, I did.

424
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You did.

425
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Is it Andy? Can we see it?

426
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All right. So, let's see. You know, is

427
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this is this the same person?

428
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No.

429
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No.

430
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No.

431
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Very different approach.

432
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So, I I I I'm very intrigued by that.

433
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Very different messages.

434
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There's more mystery, I would say, and

435
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the more black one on the on the right

436
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side.

437
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I would agree. I'm much more curious

438
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about this. This I almost get too much

439
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information and like you said, so

440
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literal.

441
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Yeah.

442
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But that's really intriguing.

443
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Maybe mysterious, but more it's like I'm

444
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going to have to go further to find out

445
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information. So, I'm going to have to

446
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check out that movie or, you know, go to

447
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pick up the book, whatever it's doing.

448
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But it's that's pretty powerful. So,

449
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okay. Well, again, I didn't want to I

450
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don't want to imply any of these are

451
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right or wrong, but it's very intriguing

452
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how accurate they were and especially

453
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the areas that you weren't trying to be

454
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accurate about and still came through

455
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cuz it's you. So, we looked at the most

456
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basic form of communication uh in our

457
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field, black and white and although we

458
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got some gray in um and you weren't able

459
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to use any other ingredients that can be

460
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really powerful. Anybody want to guess

461
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what those might be?

462
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Colors.

463
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Color. Absolutely. So, color for sure.

464
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And now you have no restrictions for

465
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texture. For this next assignment, I

466
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want to get a sense a pretty good sense

467
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of how is your life going right now.

468
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And when I say now, it it could be

469
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today, it could be this week, but no no

470
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broader. Just in your life right now,

471
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how are things going? And we want to be

472
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able to

473
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get that without being told what it is

474
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and and with nothing to read.

475
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Okay.

476
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Okay.

477
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So, if you're at home watching or

478
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wherever you're watching, I hope you'll

479
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you'll do the assignments as well. So,

480
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we want to look specifically at the

481
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power of color, shape, texture to send

482
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messages. All right. Well, thanks. Great

483
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work. I think we're off to a good start

484
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and I'm anxious to see the next two

485
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phases of this.

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A logo is an image just like a word is

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an image. And a logo is something we

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want to recognize from a I think from a

4
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distance that people want to put on

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their hats, on their t-shirts, and

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certainly their website and maybe their

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expensive car, too. But it's it's

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knowing something about the company,

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their audience, and going in and

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representing it in a way that uh people

11
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notice, people remember that separates

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them from their competition. Are they

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experimental? Are they conservative? Are

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they, you know, whatever it is. Um, and

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without getting too literal, I think the

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more literal the logo gets, the less

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interesting it is. If you're a coffee

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shop and you show kind of a far away

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nice shot of a coffee cup, well, that's

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okay. That's probably what a lot of them

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do. But maybe there's a more interesting

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angle. What is the coffee cup see? Maybe

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that's a cool angle. What does you see

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if you're looking down at the coffee

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cup? What do you see if you come inside

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to it? What does the coffee machine see?

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And then in doing that, you can hint

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that, hey, this is no, this this coffee

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shop's kind of different or this is

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worth checking out or this is not your

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typical blah blah blah. It's it it can

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send a message that that there's a lot

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that hopefully is then followed through

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when you go into the store, when you go

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on their their site. Um, but you can

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hint at that. You can intrigue people.

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You can give them a good feeling about

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that brand. This particular company

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didn't want something too crazy or too

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out there. And to be honest, like a lot

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of them, they didn't really know what

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they wanted and they wanted just some

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ideas. At some point, playing with this

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particular logo, I realized, well, the

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magic seaweed. So, the W, I could just

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surfing or waves. There's just something

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there and stayed very readable. One of

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their requirements is they needed the

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name on there because people weren't

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whole logo. If you took any of that

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their shirt, on their t-shirt, on their

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coffee mug, on their and if they do, you

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logo. So, with the Sea Skins logo, I

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wets suits that they're off and on are

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traditionally black and there's a lot of

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in the ocean or foggy day or or

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whatever. And how can you get yours to

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Charleston, South Carolina some years

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ago and um they said but he's getting

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100 years he might not win this next one

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Riley III that who was running for

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reelection and I said well Jesus you

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know if you're trying to get younger

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people and you got Joseph P. Riley the

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third vote. It's like they're going to

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get it. We're a little concerned. This

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guy's getting too old. And so what I

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politics that doesn't seem like a big

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easy but just circle and said Joe. So it

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person Joseph P. Riley III. You can vote

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for him or you can vote for Joe who kind

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of understands you and knows you. And so

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again it's really hard to quantify those

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logo, which if you remember was just an

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H with an arrow. And as a designer, I

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sharp and kind of not inviting me in,

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not very friendly." Well, these were all

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the qualities that that people didn't

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logo, in my mind, represented all of

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those things. It was distant. It was

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her to people who didn't didn't like

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affected the the outcome. But but it

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have uh done something with that.

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screen. Do that. The screen has become

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very basic page program. This is a

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picked a font that I think could work,

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could be visual but clear. Then I'll

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start moving things around. Here I'm

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realizing I don't have all the letters.

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could maybe work as an L.

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people actually enjoy to something to

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figure out. It's it's a thin line

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between figure something out and pissing

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them off. I'm seeing here this seven

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little bit like that. So, maybe I break

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as I think all logos need to work first

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in black and white. They need to work

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small, tiny, they need to work huge. And

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really happy with or the client's happy

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the basic arrangement in just black and

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words. It's like you could still do

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computer to incrementally move them

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over. I think you should be able to do

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that with your eye as a designer. And

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grids or any kind of system with that.

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there. Or maybe it should break that

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probably had no chance. But you know,

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they can't pick the more experimental

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out there stuff if you don't show them.

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client to see all these options. I would

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encourage you to show a lot of ideas.

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The Dolly Museum in in St. Petersburg

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work on. And the last thing I'm going to

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do is some kind of expected dripping

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letter, but hopefully there's an

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attitude that is consistent with Dolly.

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And here's some of many, many I would

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have showed them. They ended up going

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with something pretty close to the blue

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one. Yeah. So, it's a very basic type

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face, but it's how you use it as a

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designer. It's rare that a font alone is

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going to solve anything for you. It's

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how you put it to use. When you bring

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motion to your type, that's the last

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phase of it. I don't design it thinking

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this is going to move. I solve it as a

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stationary logo. And once that process

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is gone through, client's happy, you're

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happy, then it becomes the next kind of

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fun stage really. Where was the viewer's

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eye before this type came in or is there

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a natural sequence for them to keep

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reading? So, it's a whole new set of

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problem solving in a sense, but you

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already had form, color, shape, but now

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you've got movement, which is huge in

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provoking emotion. And it's pretty fun,

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pretty exciting. And the whole way it

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Logos.

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What is most important to you? Is the

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work most important or is where you live

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the most important?

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That will influence your decisions

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whether you know it or not. So if work

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is the most important thing to you, go

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to where that work is. If you want to do

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Hollywood movie posters, you probably

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need to go to to Hollywood. If you want

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to do only record work, maybe you need

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to be in New York. Maybe you want to do

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country music posters and go to

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Nashville or or something, you know,

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figure that out. If the work is not what

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drives you, then your decision is where

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do I want to live? and you say, "Well, I

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want to live by the beach or I want to

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live in the mountains." Well, that's

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fine. Then you go there, or you want to

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live wherever in a little town in the

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Midwest. Um, and you find what work

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there is. You you pick up what you can,

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but it's a fundamental decision you're

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going to make whether you know it or

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not. What is really driving you

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terms of workspace? I think you have to

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make what works for you a priority. And

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for me, and I think a lot of you, I've

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just gotten so comfortable on my laptop

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that I pretty much can work anywhere. I

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work on planes. I work on the beach in

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the Caribbean. I work in my apartment in

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Amsterdam. It I guess the only thing

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that's really consistent is I have to at

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some point isolate myself and really

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concentrate. When I work in my apartment

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in Amsterdam, I don't have internet in

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there for the very reason that I don't

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want to be distracted by it. And I can

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do that during the day and I can go to

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my places where I work and and some of

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the the work share places even. But if

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I'm really concentrating and I know I

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need to, then I don't have I turn off

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the Wi-Fi

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and just don't be disrupted. You know,

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your work environment has so much to do

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with your work. If you're working

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away on something and and maybe the

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night janitor walks by and says, "Oh,

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you're you're putting that there." And

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you go, "Well, yeah, why?" No, no, I

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just I just wondered. And they keep

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going, "Well, that stuff registers. You

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know, people in your office go, you're

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going to make that blue."

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And you know, there there's something

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for some early collaboration, but at

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some point, you got to trust yourself.

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And hopefully that's why you were hired

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and that's where the best work comes

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from. Committee design never gets great

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work. It can get solid work and okay

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work and it's rarely horrible because

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you got enough people weighing in that

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it's like reasonable but I don't I don't

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want to live there. So I would encourage

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you at some point in the process after

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you've had the meetings and you've read

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the brief, you know, isolate yourself in

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a place you enjoy working, maybe get

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your favorite music on and just and

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that's when I get in kind of my zone and

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all of a sudden 3 or 4 hours are gone

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and I just and the best work comes out

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of

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you could be the best designer in the

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world, but if nobody sees the work um

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it's going to be difficult there. There

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good chance they won't find you. So, you

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have to actively promote yourself and

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whether that's one of the various social

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media programs. I mean, it largely is

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today, but you've got to get in front of

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other successful designers or other

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magazine designers or other website

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designers. I did that. I I sent out to

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people I read about issues of the

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magazine. I entered the competitions and

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at some point I started getting some

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acknowledgement and it just added to

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work and clients and allowed me to keep

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doing what I love doing. And it may be

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more than simply going to the obvious

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social media programs. Maybe there's

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some other inroads to a client or to a

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decision maker or something. So look for

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those because you also obviously can get

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lost in the maze of Instagram and some

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of the others. And as much as they can

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help you, you can also get lost there.

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And so be creative and and how you get

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your work in front of people because

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that's how you continue to get to do

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what you enjoy doing. Got to have the

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ability. It won't matter if if you

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don't, but if you do and you feel it,

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you feel this is your thing. Just help

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people to see it.

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design and um and there's a lot of uh

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strong emotion on both sides and I have

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to say I

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uh I totally believe in spec. Um if you

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got an opportunity to get a lot of

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freedom and really experiment and little

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or no money, I think it's worth it. I

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still think it's worth it. I think it's

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been worth it my whole career and I

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still do it actually. Wow. Well, what's

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this project? Is it good for the

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environment or people? Is it just fun?

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world? There's a lot of factors and I

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have no problem with that. If somebody

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wants you to do like grunt work or or

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just lay out endless catalog and there's

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no thinking or something and they don't

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want to pay you, that to me doesn't make

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any sense. Only you can decide that. If

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you feel you're being taken advantage of

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and you don't you're not going to do

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that, well that's fine. Don't. But I

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would encourage you to look at the

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opportunity. Does it give you a lot of

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freedom? Push you as a designer. People

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are going to see it. May may bring you

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more work. It's worth a shot.

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The second assignment, let's see what

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happens if we add color.

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Color is a huge message sender and

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emotion sender. I want to get a sense of

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how things are going in your life right

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now. using only color, no letters, no

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words. And just a little peak of the

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power of color in your design.

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Let's start here. And what do you

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think's going on in this person's life

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right now?

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It seems a bit chaotic.

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I think so. There's a certain amount of

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organization here. It's not out of

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control chaotic.

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There's opposites involved that are

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playing off each other with the colors

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and with the textures.

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How do you think that would manifest?

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Maybe some emotional highs and lows

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lately.

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Okay. Having some highs and lows lately.

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All right. What else is this person

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happy or sad right now?

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It's kind of hard to tell.

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Generally, orange and especially lighter

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blues are happy colors. They're

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festives. Why? Why? What's keeping us

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Just sort of this rough energy.

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Maybe the nature of the brush strokes.

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doesn't seem like it was done

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delicately. It feels like it was done

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with a lot of energy.

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cut out?

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They seem ripped more than cut out.

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are going smoothly or maybe not so

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smoothly?

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Not so smoothly. uh because of the edges

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and u how it's like she said ripped

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instead of cleanly cut.

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cut something out or you put it on a

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grid or you tear it. It sends a very

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different message overall. How many

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would say they they'd want this going on

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in your life right now?

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I don't know about that.

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it makes it interesting but it also uh

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Okay. So, is this person like in a

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really bad place this week?

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energy. I think

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horrible week." Okay. If think if it was

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dark reds and dark blue and some other

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colors. Whose is this?

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This is me.

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How are those comments?

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Um, really true.

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Really true.

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Yeah. I' I've been feeling both happy

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and sad and stressed.

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Happy and sad. I think that comes

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stressed

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um many things.

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heard?

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No. So they were right on. So this is

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communicating a lot and pretty

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accurately from from our comments. So

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the only thing we I could add to that is

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that when you did go in with a you know

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this was a a book cover about your life

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or a poster about a talk you're giving

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with the right words and the type this

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becomes very powerful. Okay. Well, let's

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switch.

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How many would want this week to come?

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It just seems formed and kind of happy.

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use of colors and how they interact with

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each other.

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I think the blue would be sort of like

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trapping in the yellow. And because it's

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a square,

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I feel it's really confined and maybe

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some pressure. What's intriguing is

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what's normally not a very open kind of

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expressive situation in terms of you

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have a rectangle inside of a rectangle I

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would say even inside of another

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rectangle which can be kind of

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um restricting in a way but but there's

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this is funny because it has a border

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but it still feels like there's there's

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movement in and out.

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Um how many would would say I don't want

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that week. I don't want that going on.

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Seems like a good week. Seems like like

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it sounds really bad, but plant fun.

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Like the lines are free, but they're

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within the box.

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How many would want to know more about

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this if you saw it as a poster or maybe

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a book cover or

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Yeah, because I feel the movement. It's,

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you know, exciting.

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Okay. Some excitement. He feels the

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movement. A very different type of

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movement than we saw here. But I would

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agree. There's something intriguing and

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nothing's totally out of control. and

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it's still contained even though there's

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a lot going on. So, who's is this?

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It's mine.

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And it's sometimes I I really don't

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know. It's like there's only four

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people. You should know.

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But okay, how were those comments?

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I wasn't sure if people were going to

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read it more as positive or not. So, I

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we definitely got more positive than

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negative for sure. And that would be

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largely the color. Imagine if this was

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in black,

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you know, and any other color. Mhm.

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Did anything you hear was totally wrong

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or

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um Yeah, maybe how often like positivity

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or happiness was mentioned because um

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like it's been a very like lively and

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vibrant time more than a happy one

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necessarily.

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Huh.

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Yeah.

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The difference between lively and

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vibrant versus happy. That's

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interesting.

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That's tricky.

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What else?

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And I mean the framing I chose that

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specifically to communicate trying to

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keep things organized while a lot is

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going on. So, a little bit overwhelmed,

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but still kind of, you know, keeping it

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together.

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Yeah, definitely keeping it together

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with a lot a lot going on. Okay, nice.

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We'll come down. Well, no, I'm going to

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go over here actually. How many would

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want this going on in your life right

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now?

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I'm not sure.

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Okay, that was unanimously. We're no

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takers. I'll keep my week. Thank you

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very much.

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Why is that?

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The gray of O of course the color. Look

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at the Look where we just came from. I

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mean these two and then very distinctly

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different color range that is sending a

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very different motion. And what else?

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Very balanced shapes in there. It's

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harmonizing kind of pretty well.

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I'm really happy to see that they broke

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out of the square a bit and then you had

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that option. So I think that's a nice

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design touch and way of thinking that

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let them do that.

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I think the pop of colors either I can't

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decide if it feels more hopeful or more

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ominous.

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That's a really good good observation. I

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mean, we have bright orange. That's a

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happy color. We have some yellow in

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there. We have some white. Why aren't we

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feeling happy?

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Maybe it's too organized or too

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Well, it's very organized. Absolutely.

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And what's happening to that happy

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orange, yellow?

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It's very confined.

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It's confined and overtaken by grays and

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similar colors. So the the overlying

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takeaway is a darker kind of color thing

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and what message that sends. How many

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would want to know more?

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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I'm very intrigued. Do you think does

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this feel like a very personal piece? Do

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you think they thought about this one?

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I feel so. Yes,

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I'd say absolutely. There I don't I

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don't get it. I'm kind I want to know

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more. I want I need some more

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information. And uh and I don't think

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this is something you quickly Oh geez, I

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got 10 minutes. I got to have that

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ready. Bof. No, it doesn't feel like

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that, you know, and the amount of time

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you put into something is often directly

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related to the amount of time somebody

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will spend with it. So, if you spend 10

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minutes get something out the door,

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probably when the audience or whoever

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the client even sees that, their

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reaction is going to be about the same.

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time and thought about something, the

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work's going to be stronger and and

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people overall will feel that and

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they'll they'll get that. That's why I

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want to know more about this and all of

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these really. I could tell they weren't

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and I've done enough workshops that I I

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can tell they weren't quickly done on

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your way to class.

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Okay. Who's is this?

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It's mine.

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How were the comments?

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I chose the colors because I just chose

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samples of colors that I have in my

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storage which are like water paints that

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I have actually in my house which I felt

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were the actual colors of my life

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instead of buying bright colors that I

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don't use.

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Okay. Okay. Good. Good. And I tend to

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plan my weeks on Sunday. So

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you plan your week on Sunday.

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Yeah. So I guess it is really planned.

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Okay. I think that kind comes through.

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And then like the little black uh

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triangle pit thing is a bit of anxiety

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and stress that I have on some days.

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It's not that big. It's just

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okay. There might have been a way we

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could have felt that a little more than

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this is doing. So again, these aren't

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right or wrong, but um but that's a

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that's a pretty strong concept. There's

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still some little anxiety even in this

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overall organization and planning the

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week in advance. I love the fact that

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she used colors from her house that that

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mean something to her. Um, and what did

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you hear that was totally wrong

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about the colors being bland because

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they're like balanced and content to me.

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Okay. Okay. Content. Content. Yeah. So,

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so we didn't we didn't we didn't get to

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contentment. And I don't know if it got

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too busy for content with too many lines

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and the the rigid borders. So there

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there there would be ways we could

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soften this a bit to maybe be more

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accurate. Um what else? Other comments

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that stuck out to you.

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Uh the bright color.

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Well, that would be that's the one I'm

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most curious about actually.

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Uh that's my pregnancy which makes me

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really happy.

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Oh well congratulations.

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And my otherwise normal life I guess.

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Uh, I would have liked us to have gotten

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that a little bit more to be a little

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more expressive. Maybe there's a way we

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could have felt, oh, there's something I

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think there's something really positive

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or exciting

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go or going on just like the anxiety

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that could have been a little more

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expressive, but certainly intriguing. So

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great. Um, let's go down here.

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How many would want this week?

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I don't know about that.

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You're not sure?

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I don't know.

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Why not? Why not? It's happy colors

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again. We've got red, we've got circles,

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we've got orange, we got a lot of white

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space. That should be pretty happy.

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But it kind of feels like it's falling

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off edge, though.

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Falling over edge.

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Yeah, like the orange is the edge.

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It's a sharp edge. And it goes off the

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page, so you have no idea what's down

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there.

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Okay. Okay. And this one's maybe a

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little tricky not to read literally.

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Feels a bit lonely.

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Lonely. Interesting. That's the first

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time we've heard that. It seems like

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it's kind of central, but there's

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something like messing with it.

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I think that's really strong

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interpretation. Yeah.

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Something something missing.

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Mhm.

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Who's is this? You think I would have

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figured it out? Uh, how are those

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comments?

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Um,

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there's a, you know, positivity going

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on, but at the same time, I feel a lot

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of tension um this week.

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Positivity and tension. I think that

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comes through really well.

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Mhm.

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Um, the loneliness. Um, interesting

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comment. Um, been doing a lot of work,

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so I guess. So,

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anything you hear that was totally wrong

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or that we missed?

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No, I mean I mean it's not that dark. I

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mean, they they said they didn't want

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the week, but it's just a challenging

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week.

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Challenging. I like the word challenging

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because I didn't get overly negative. I

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didn't think, oh, I don't want to go

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there. So challenging is kind of a nice

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uh and then the isolation comment I

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think is is is nice too and and you

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backed it up.

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Yeah. So overall pretty

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pretty accurate. Okay. So we've

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communicated a lot and I hope you're

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watching it at home or in your own

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studio. We'll we'll experiment with with

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the same type of things and using color

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that has some meaning to you and and

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arranging in such a way that that you

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feel it's representing your your week,

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your life right now with with no words

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at all. We got a lot of from these. Um,

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great. Well, I'm really happy with the

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the result. Okay. So, now for the third

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version, you have no restriction. You

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can add type, you can add color,

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texture, shape, uh size. It's wide open.

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Okay. And this is when in theory they

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should get the best because you have no

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restriction. You can add type to these,

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but it's tricky sometimes, like I said,

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to add a type and not somehow lessen the

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effect. So that'll kind of be your

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challenge. I want to see, but more

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importantly, I want to feel where you

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see yourself in 10 years.

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push yourselves, have some fun, remember

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what we've done. And great work today.

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Very, very happy. And and those of you

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at home, your stuff is really good, too.

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Okay. All right.

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In the last two years, I've started kind

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of rediscovering uh collage work and

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it's been really invigorating to get out

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from behind the screen and work with my

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hands.

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I'm happy to say some of this work is

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starting to work its way into client

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work. People are really reacting

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strongly to things that feel like

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there's a human behind the work.

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Some of these new clients, they were

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drawn to something of mine they'd seen

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and thought, "Maybe that could work."

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So, if you have your personal side of

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artwork or something you're doing,

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there's very often a place you can use

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it.

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The starting point for me is is usually

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by some color combination of something I

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think could work color-wise. And so I

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start to see some things. This red's

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probably too bright. And um I don't want

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anything too literal. I don't want you

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to be able to see like there's a boat

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here and that sort of thing because

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that's not the message.

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But I'm drawn to some type

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possibilities. And

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there's something I'm liking about this

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red thing that's starting to happen.

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It's not quite working yet. And that's

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often why I'll have a couple going at

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the same time. Here, I'm going to get a

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little blue thing going.

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I might find something interesting. And

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so I I want to cut it out. But what

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often happens, the thing I think I'm

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cutting out for

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is okay. But what's even better, oh, is

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what's left.

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I don't want to be able to read anything

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or I don't want a straight edge.

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I like using white on white and the back

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of something. Sometimes it gets a nice

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texture

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and you don't want to be too too

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precious about it as you kind of get

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what you get.

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And I'll just go some blue. Some nice

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type here happened.

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That's kind of something nice going.

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Red's a difficult color. It's almost too

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strong.

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Maybe we could bring some more type into

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this one. Now there, a little hint of

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the color is pretty nice.

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And maybe a hint of another letter over

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here. Now, this one's getting close.

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It's not quite there. Maybe an

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unexpected little hint of some color.

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That's getting better. Little color

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here. That was actually a nice accident.

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I looked on the back.

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So, when they get into final position,

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there's usually been a lot of minor

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minor tweaks, and that's something only

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your eye will see or notice.

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If you have source material that's good

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or that you like, you're going to have

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better results. That's the bottom line.

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Maybe some unexpected. There's a little

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too sameness here. I need something a

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little bolder.

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The best work comes if if the individual

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pieces have some significance to your

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life, to your existence. So, I'm trying

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to add something to this red thing

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that's not quite working.

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Maybe turn something over and get rid of

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so much color that's distracting.

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Something there. Maybe

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it's gotten a little better.

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Oh, there's something. You know, this

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red one has never been working. So,

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maybe it just wants something really

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simple.

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That's probably my favorite right now.

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It's got some white space.

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That one might be done. These guys are

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close. They're screaming that there

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there's a good collage in here. I

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haven't unraveled it yet. So, I'll just

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add some texture with the white on

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white.

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Oh, now this got better right away

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because it got simpler. And maybe the D

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and the yellow is too strong. So, I

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might try to break that up a little bit.

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Maybe we'll just move this one up a

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little. And maybe it'll something will

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move and it'll get better. Oh, that's

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already kind of interesting.

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They're all starting to work. So I would

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usually look at them from a little

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different perspective.

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Well, you know, I used to say collage is

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new to me, but in some ways I've I guess

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I've almost always done collage. I

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really was arranging things still by eye

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and by hand. But in terms of physically

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doing it like I have, that's new and

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it's it's refreshing and it's uh it's

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fun. And I'm always photographing them.

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becoming much more aware of light source

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and realize the effect of having shadows

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that the paper does. And they're not

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fake shadows. They're real. Because if

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you're always on a screen, you don't

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have that.

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paste it down.

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And they always move slightly. Sometimes

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they get better. And when it feels right

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